A few years ago I was engaged in a friendly spiritual dialogue with a former childhood friend on facebook. The conversation was spawned from a status I had just posted on my timeline. What I shared was a diagram of two photos, exposing in a dichotomy, the hypocrisy of liberal values. The photo on the left portrayed two homosexuals in festive, colorful attire kissing each other in what looked like a gay pride parade. Below the photo was the word “encouraged”. The photo on the right portrayed two little children sitting at their desk in school with hands folded in prayer. Below that photo was the word “unacceptable”. In other words, Liberalism encouraged homosexuality while deeming school prayer unacceptable.

My friend pointed out that the photo of the children was upsetting to him as he believed that no one should discourage children from praying, but the one of the homosexuals kissing didn’t bother him.

Here is the exchange between us:

Friend: “As for the picture on the left, get over it. Homosexuality has been around for hundreds of years, and it will remain for hundreds of years to come. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not a big deal.”

Me: “The loyalty of true devoted Christians is to the truth and testimony of the Word of God, David. The Scriptures, which you probably doubt are God-inspired, are clear on homosexuality. It is an abomination to God (Leviticus 18), unnatural (Rom 1), and in opposition to God’s nature and sacred order (Rom 1). No one in this lifestyle can inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-11), but will incur God’s wrath unless they repent and seek help and deliverance. Homosexuality has always been rejected throughout history. It is biologically abnormal and gay people know that deep inside. They are forever trying to get society to accept it in order to remove the heavy burden of guilt they are under. The good news is God loves them, did not make them this way, and can change them and set them free. I know a number of people who were in that lifestyle but are living normal lives today. David, I say this to you with all love and kindness: To say that homosexuality is no big deal reveals to me that you are not a true Christian and have not yet been enlightened and come to repentance from sin and faith toward Jesus Christ. I also discern that because you know a number of whom you say are “good” people in this lifestyle, you have concluded that it must be okay. But once more, this too is error. Our loyalty must be to the truth of the inspired Scriptures, and not to men, be it loved ones or close friends. Do not be deceived. He that is born of God cannot practice a lifestyle of sin because his nature has been changed by the grace and power of God (1 John 3:9).”

Friend: “The church I grew up in, and continue to attend on a very regular basis is an open and affirming church. During my faith journey in this church, I have been a deacon, an elder, and president of our church council. Since our church is open and affirming, and my Christianity has been brought into question, one can conclude that the faith of all 763 members of our church is in question based on your position. I choose to love and respect all people regardless of their own faith, culture, or lifestyle. I have been married to women twice, and divorced twice. If two men or two women are perfectly content with each other, and truly love each other, I am perfectly content in that and would be supportive of them in any way I can. I often think the manual used in justifying our individual faith or agenda can be extremely damaging. We will agree to disagree, and I have enjoyed this little debate. I will forever choose to love and respect all people regardless of the journey they choose to take while on this earth.”

Me: “David, that is not my position, but the position of the Word of God and the Scriptures that I referenced. That is the manual! And not adhering to the manual is what is extremely damaging!!! Can anything be clearer than 1 Corinthians 6:9-11? Ephesians 5:5-6? Rev 21:7-8? And if time permitted I could list a host of many other scriptures. This is the great deception of Christianity in America today, and one that I am currently and passionately speaking on and writing about. I know of what I speak. I love and respect all people for they are God’s own creation, but I don’t respect people’s sinful lifestyles that are contrary to the Word of God. True love and respect speaks the truth, and warns people of death, hell, and the judgment to come commanding them to repent. Be not deceived, David! Heaven and earth shall pass away, but God’s eternal Word will last forever. Our faith must be based on that Word.”

My friend’s comments actually represent a large segment of professing Christians in America today, both on the liberal and even now on the conservative wing. His comments are also indicative of how secular humanism has penetrated in one form or another into the mainstream of our culture and infiltrated many of our churches; be it denominational, evangelical, and even Charismatic/Pentecostal churches. This wide departure from the faith, in what has now become a sort of post modern Christianity in America, signals the death knell for many. The celebrated philosophy of the day of “no absolutes, no right or wrong – whatever makes you happy – be tolerant and accepting of everything and everyone” is eroding the core of Judeo-Christian Biblically-based values, and greatly weakening real Christianity in America and in other nations as well, especially in Europe. I fear for the multitudes of the deceived who shall soon be the deceased. This could indeed be the final acceleration of the great apostasy the Bible speaks of will happen in these last days.

“Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons” (1 Tim 4:1).

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables” (2 Tim 4:2-4).

By the world’s standards, my childhood and now facebook friend, is a good church going citizen. I can tell you that he is nice and kind to people, willing to go out of his way to lend a helping hand to anyone who needs it, well-liked and even esteemed by others, but he is still deceived. His stand on homosexuality and sin is unbiblical, ungodly, and most of all eternally fatal. His beliefs are the product of a false gospel.

Think of it: Here is a man, now in his 50’s, who’s been in the same church all his life, has held various positions in the church, and still has not been converted and entered into the real faith. Like millions in America, he is a product of a liberal theology birthed from secular humanism that can’t tell you for sure, or won’t tell you for sure, if there’s a heaven and a hell, but will try and keep you happy while you’re still alive, all in the name of God and love.

This is why a person can be a member of a church and yet be living a gay lifestyle. He can carry a Bible and be in an adulterous affair. He can adhere to a form of doctrine but have no peace. This is the sad state of things in much of America.

To be continued…

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  1. Your discussion gets the truth out plainly! Thank you for targeting this issue, and I would assume other serious sins (as listed in the N.T.) would be included? I’ve heard it said that the reason homosexuality has become so acceptable, is because of originally, the “sexual revolution”–which has been going on for about 50 years now; and as you said, it seems like big societal behavior changes come from ideologies taking hold…I think it’s interesting too, that the ideologies come from individuals, often very corrupt, and godless (like Freud; and how ’bout Horace Mann, father of the public school system, who was an agnostic, or atheist — how many children have been turned away from believing in the public schools!) I think as well, the show of tremendous evil (from those who certainly would support homosexuality)– I mean the evil that is displayed by extreme hatred of the current administration, and some of what it stands for, may be kind-of the same thing, as evidence of the anti-Christ spirit. I had wanted also, to comment on your last post; but I don’t know if I need to go back to it. Just to say, it really hit me — so refreshing, and strengthening, a truth that would set the captives free! It helped me to understand why it is so lifeless and wearisome, the quantity of messages about “self”! It was almost like a disciplinary message (yet so freeing) to understand that our lives really are not about us; and that we give ourselves to God as a living sacrifice, because that’s simply the order of things, that He is preeminent, and must be in all His creation!! About this post, I had a quick question…you said that those who agree (or are not against?) homosexuality are showing that they are not true believers? Are you going on such scriptures as Rom.1:32? It’s interesting, in the N.T. we’re told if we love God, we must hate sin!

    • I don’t see how you can be for gay marriage or pro-homosexuality and be a real Christian. Yes, I’m basing it on such scriptures like Romans 1. There is help and deliverance and forgiveness only for those who admit it is wrong and want to be free.

  2. You are correct. As Followers of Jesus, we either take up our cross and follow Him, or we don’t. There are no shades of grey, or room for compromise. Those that walk in the light, will profess Jesus as Lord and stand with the entire Word.

  3. I guess this position that your childhood friend has has been strong in New England, where you are from, for some time now. However, unfortunately, it has also been invading the Bible belt lately!

  4. The question of homosexuality is a really difficult one. You can lose a few friends over this issue as most people have liberal views. The attacks can come fast and furious and the eyes begin to roll as you can end up being tagged the homophobic. However my argument here is that The Lord loves homosexuals just as much as the rest of us, its just homosexuality he hates. Its a sin just like every other sin. We need to remain steadfast and loyal in this debate even if it means losing a few friends for the sake of the truth.

    • Definitely Colin! As followers of Jesus, we are to love all people, including our enemies. One of the big differences between other sins and homosexuality is the demonic factor is strong in most homosexuals. It is an unclean spirit. So in that sense it is not quite like other sins.

  5. Many believers today do not fast, or fast superficially, drink alcohol, masturbate. The Church has since its creation advocated fasting, drug abstinence and no masturbation. It has used fasting to treat homosexuality since the 5th century. Interestingly a new study, based on scientific explanation, proposes a calorie restricted diet (similar to fasting), drug abstinence, no masturbation and sleep, to treat homosexuality.

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